Episode 3 is an Alone contestant interview with Britt Ahart. Britt participated on seasons 3 and 5 of Alone, living in Patagonia and Mongolia.

Britt shares the challenges of coming back to normal life after being on Alone. From hiding in bathrooms to being more conscious of waste. Don’t tell Britt that you are starving or freezing!

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Sam 0:15

Hello, and welcome to episode three of the Alone podcast. My name is Sam and I'm your host yet again. I'm gonna say this every week I'm super excited about about today's interview and about today's guest, and really humbled and grateful for this opportunity. So today we're going to be speaking with Britt a heart. Britt is another two seasoned veteran alone. Brit spent time in both seasons three and five. So that means he was in Patagonia and Mongolia for his experience. So I guess that means that Brit kind of he gets the exotic alone award right gets to do to the more exotic places. But Britt, welcome to the show. Thank you for for coming on, and spending time with us today.

Britt Ahart 0:58

Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

Sam 1:01

Yeah, you know, I'm super excited. And I've kind of accidentally started a tradition here of throwing a softball at the very beginning. And so, okay, really, my first question for you is, first of all, does your son still have his dance moves? And does he still does he still get down?

Britt Ahart 1:19

But tell you what the very last time I saw my son dance was probably about an hour ago, when I found his pet rabbit. He is always dancing. He comes into the kitchen to get a snack and he's dancing. I don't know where he gets it from his mom says he gets it from me. But I mean, maybe she's right. But yeah, he's still got the move, still progressing. He's getting bigger.

Sam 1:39

That's funny. When I when I first started putting together notes and contemplating this conversation today, I looked at my wife and I was like, there was something about Britt and his son and dancing, right. So I had to pour through, you know, two seasons, trying to find that. And I was super glad that I went back and uncovered that. So I guess that kind of transitions into the next. The next question, it seems like you're, you're active on social media. So are we going to get a dance off between you and your son anytime in the near future?

Britt Ahart 2:10

I mean, there is one video. It's like a few years old, my son and I dancing in the driveway. But I don't I don't know if any more that's going to be coming anytime soon. Maybe spur the moment, but I haven't planned anything. Nothing's choreographed.

Sam 2:24

Alright, well, well. We'll be waiting. We'll be waiting and ready. All right. All right. Well, well, we'll just jump in. So I think you're in you're in Georgia. Now you were you were in Ohio. Before that. Are you from Ohio? Or where? Where do you start your life in this world?

Britt Ahart 2:43

Well, I think everybody who's watched alone thinks I was born in Ohio. I'm originally from born in DC lived in Virginia. And I only moved to Ohio about probably 16 years ago now. And then now we've been in Georgia for the last about two months.

Sam 2:58

Alright, so DC and Virginia. What? Obviously that's where your family was, that conjures up the government and other things is what was your family doing?

Britt Ahart 3:08

Well, my dad was working for the American Bankers Association for many, many years. And my mom worked for the airline. She was also a teacher. They actually moved from my dad was from Michigan. My mom was from Mississippi moved to Michigan. That's where they met and and they left and went to Virginia. Back in like 1970.

Sam 3:28

All right, cool. And then from there, you you went to Ohio, and now Georgia. Can we ask what Yeah, it's to Georgia. It looks like you're on a beautiful, beautiful little spread there. And you found a little piece of paradise. Is that accurate?

Britt Ahart 3:39

Yeah, we're excited. We're excited out here. We just got tired of the endless winters in Ohio, and we lived in a place that was, you know, really, really wet. I mean, I'm not trying to bash Ohio, we're just ready for a change. And we know we want to be warmer, more. We wanted to do some gardening year round, which we're planning on starting. And she'd never been out of Ohio and said, you know, why not? We have one life. Let's just take a chance and pick up all of our stuff and move. So we did it. And now we're not regretting it. We're having a really good time down here.

Sam 4:11

Right. That's awesome. Yeah, we it's funny every year I live in Utah, Salt Lake City. So we're, you know, pretty cold and pretty snowy for a decent chunk of the year as well. And I lived in Arizona for a while but ever since living in Arizona seems like the beginning of every winter, I threatened to make an exodus to somewhere not freezing cold in the winter. So Good on you for making that happen.

Britt Ahart 4:33

Yeah. Yeah, they just lasted too long. Like it was, you know, there was snow on the ground, maybe like four months out of the year after it hit it just down and it's just so cold and windy and wet and Mossy and we just wanted to be outside a lot more than that was allowing us to be

Sam 4:51

that's awesome. That's a pretty pure motivation. Was your was your work able to transfer with that or how how did that work when you made that move?

Britt Ahart 5:00

Well, I was I was driving a school bus when we last left Ohio. So I obviously I still have all that certification. And I've been pondering, joining up with the school system here. But no, I'm not, I'm not doing that yet. I'm actually starting off with some other ventures with my, with my agent. And I have some things in the works, where I'm going to be traveling out to California in the near future and working with the school systems on some basic bushcraft and getting kids interested in the outdoors. And I have a couple other irons in the fire too. But I'll talk about those as they, you know, further develop.

Sam 5:38

Okay, yeah, is there? Is there anything you want to kind of expand upon with, with what you're doing in California, or any of your other personal things that are to a point you can talk about?

Britt Ahart 5:48

Yeah, sure. So I'm paired up with my agent as part of valor talent group, I guess I'm part of valor talent group. And I'm going to be working with the school system out in Redding, California, kindergarteners, through eighth graders, and I'm going to be shooting some videos for them to view in their classrooms, and then I'm going to actually visit them, you know, I'll do three assemblies for three different blocks of the of the kids age wise, from K to eighth grade. And then, you know, I'm going to have a whole setup there where they can actually see some demonstrations, I'll show an example of campsite also, obviously, I talk a lot about my experience on Alone, because, you know, they're going to watch a little bit of the show, and then I'll be able to show up there and give them like some hands on activities and experiences and you know, answer their question and things of that nature. That's one of the projects I'm working on with my agent. Another thing is, with, I guess I can name them. I don't know if I can name them yet. But there's a couple other, these two other girls or women have a podcast. And they're also trying to do a program to get inner city kids, underprivileged youth, you know, more interested in the outdoors, have them experience some of the outdoors, do some teaching and some instructions, and some, give them like some guidance, and then prepare them to do a 24 hour overnight by themselves in the wilderness. We'd like me there to kind of like give tips and give aid and give a little, you know, critiques and assistance and things of that nature. So that's the second thing that is in the works. But that's just in the in the very beginning processes. So I can't really name anything about what that's going to be or where it's going to be. And the third thing I'm waiting for is, wait, I don't know if I've talked about this one yet, because there's been no official paperwork. But I'll say loosely, that I'm hoping to be part of an instructional TV show pitch to a particular network, that's going to be similar to what I did on the show alone. But from my home with kind of like some how tos. I'm trying to be vague without getting myself in trouble. But that's about the most I can say about that

Sam 7:56

task and hate that the the good thing about recordings is that I have the ability to go in and make stuff disappear. So

Britt Ahart 8:03

okay, great.

Sam 8:04

So I'll promise that TNF Stephanie's disappeared, we can make it disappear. Now, that's super cool. And and want to talk about the California thing you mentioned, obviously, that you're one of your other ventures is more with underprivileged youth, the California venture, is this an urban district? Is this more rural? What's, what's the makeup there?

Britt Ahart 8:26

From? From what I know, this is a more rural area. I'm sorry, this is a more non urban or rural I mean, I think it might be, you know, because of where we're going. It's kind of like a kids with means but no experience because they don't do stuff like this. There aren't a lot of places that kids have had the type of experience where we're going. So that being said, I mean, it's not inner city, or urban, it's more like in a kind of a well off area, but not with children who have ever had this sort of experience.

Sam 9:00

That's cool. That's awesome. And obviously the you know, working with your other project, working with the more underprivileged youth, I think that's something for me that that's that's close to me and something that I'm passionate about. And I've got stuff that I, you know, I've been dreaming of for years wanting to start in that vein, is that something that you went looking for that kind of come to you?

Britt Ahart 9:22

Well, what's funny is that I originally this is that's what I wanted to start out doing. My wife and I before we left Ohio, we're actually looking into getting more property that I could actually have some sort of kids camp where I could take inner city youth, and kids who haven't been exposed to nature, or have the opportunity, you know, laid out before them. And so we were actually looking into making a kid's camp. We're getting all things in order. We're running into how difficult it would be legally to bring like children, you know, to our ATM because of reasons I obviously don't have to explain. So as this was happening, and we were like hitting roadblocks and frustrations. Then I started, that's when I paired up with my agent. So that kind of stopped that portion. Because he said, I understand what you want to do, Britt. So let's try and put these projects in order in these projects in order, and then you'll get the funding. And then you'll get the, you'll get the assistance from other people who want to like donate and become a part of what you're trying to do. And then you'll be able to do that camp style, inner city youth getting them exposed type experience, further down the line. So because I had to put that on the back burner, and then go this direction, because first we need the money, and then we can do you know, the projects to benefit children, which is what I really love to do. That's when randomly just a couple of days ago, maybe like five days ago, I had this phone call with those other podcasters about being a part of this project. It was like, wow, this is what I wanted to do. I haven't been able to do it yet, because of this obstacle, miss out of school in this instance, and this happenstance, and they may contact me and say, hey, we'd love you to be part of this as a mentor. And I'm like, I was like, Are you serious, this is what I've been wanting to do. So absolutely, I'd love to be a part of this project. So to make a long story short, I was trying to pursue that it was becoming increasingly difficult for a number of reasons. And then now the opportunity has been brought to me to be a part of something like that.

Sam 11:18

Yeah, if you, if you haven't looked into starting and doing a youth, you know, children's program, it it's a lot and there's a lot of lifts. So that's awesome that it kind of I want to say fell into your lap, because you've obviously done a lot of work to, to put yourself to be the person they reach out to. But that's really neat that it came to you and something that I wanted to touch on this is kind of a I think a good place to do so is mentioned in Ohio, you were driving a bus and you know, as I was kind of perusing your, your social feeds, trying to understand a little bit more of who Britt is, before we talk today. You know, your school bus driving job was was something that at least it seems was super important to you, and that you took a lot of pride in and and you love the opportunity to impact children's lives even just on a bus ride. Can you talk about that a little bit? I mean, it seems like there's a trend or a thread here in your life.

Britt Ahart 12:16

Yeah, I have to say that leaving my bus route was one of the hardest things about moving out of Ohio. It's definitely the most rewarding job that I've ever had in my life. I love hanging out with kids, I love that they're just like, pure and unfiltered. And you know, like warm, and you can have good conversations. And you can have like just momentary interactions that can be very impactful to that kid. Because, I mean, people take bus drivers for granted, you can have a really mean bus driver, you can have somebody who likes to engage with the kids, obviously, I'm the one that enjoyed, you know, like being friendly with him, you know, being stern at times, but just making them smile and having fun with it. And so, I don't know, I originally started doing it because one, I love kids and two, because I was looking for something that would afford me a lot more opportunity to spend time with my son, because he rode the bus with me every day. So we had, you know, great conversations, I got to see him off to school and then be the first person when he got home from school. And we'd have, you know, be able to bond in that, you know, yellow capsule as we floated down the road. But there's just something I always felt comfortable with. Being able to talk with kids and being able to understand the kids on a level that I don't think they're always understood, because they're really not so complicated. And sometimes, me being an adult, and then trying to say something to me. I don't really know how to explain it. I've just always enjoyed being around kids. I used to teach chess and computers to kids at summer school. I just always gotten along with kids and I don't know if it sounds weird, but you don't have to act a different way around kids. You just be yourself around kids and I think it's it's more relaxing for me than being around a whole group of adults. Where you know, maybe somebody is judgy or maybe somebody like doesn't like you for this that reason but with kids it's just an easy simple fun atmosphere that I just felt much more natural being in that den around most of the people I've met in my entire life well you you're not quite sure where I was going with that. No this is you know in a row going after a minute now this

Sam 14:26

is perfect man. It's funny you know, Larry was our previous episode and he mentioned that I Sorry, man, I think I kind of rambled like know that. I want you here to ramble, right? You You make my my life a lot easier. And I want to hear you ramble. That's why I reached out to you. So you just you just chase those, chase those lines and wherever we end up we'll end up Don't worry about it.

Britt Ahart 14:49

happens. Yeah, when I'm talking to somebody else, sometimes it's just my inner monologue just starts falling out and I'm like, Oh crap, I gotta reel it back in.

Sam 14:58

Oh, you know what I was what I was gonna say is As you know, with with your enjoyment for being around kids and preferring their company, you are welcome at my house for any long weekend you want. I will provide food and shelter. And how many kids? Two, we've got two daughters. And yeah, I've got two daughters. And that's the most special thing in the world. So that's awesome. My apologies to you that you you've got a son. But I tell you what daughters were Yeah, my friend.

Britt Ahart 15:35

See that? That's what I've heard. And I'm never going to get the opportunity now. I mean, I have I had two stepdaughters when I met them, they were nine and five. So I've been basically raising them up until this age where now they're 20 and 25. But uh, it was, everybody said, having a little girl is like the best thing ever. I'm sure I have to take your word for it, because I'll never

Sam 15:59

be there. Well, you don't. You don't have to. Mentally, you don't have to take my word for it. Britt. Like I said, any long weekend, my friend here. You're more than welcome.

Britt Ahart 16:11

I'll tell you, there was one little girl on my school bus who was the most precious thing ever. Her name was Shelby. And she's the only kid who when I left Ohio, I contacted her mom, because she'd be at the bus stop every day with her mom. And I'd be like, hey, Shelby was the best kid on the bus. Like she used to bring me a little drawing and stuff that I gave her a little drawing or something. And I was like, when I moved to Georgia, is it okay, if I become pen pals with Shelby. And she was like, she would love that. She already said she's gonna miss you so much. So I've already written one letter to Shelby. And I'm still like a little kid going to the mailbox every morning hoping I get a letter back. But yeah, so she, I had, obviously I had about 70 kids on my on my bus between both routes. And she was the most special little kid on the bus. She sat right behind me every day, we had the cutest little conversations. So that's the closest I've ever gotten to having like a little, little tiny girl who was like, close to my own. Because I did have responsibility for every day and talk to her every day. So yeah, I could see having a little girl of your own would be like the greatest thing.

Sam 17:16

It's, you know, it's great. I'm sure. I'm sure sounds great. It's your son. Your dad loves you. Fantastic. No, so I just my my train just left the station. How about that? So with the bus routes, I was gonna go first with your bus route. Did any of your of your kids or any of the parents ever, you know, the door opens up and there's Britain like, hey, wait a minute. I know you.

Britt Ahart 17:42

Oh, all the time? Yeah, yeah. Because yeah. So I was on the show, obviously. And then we're started getting around because my, you know, my wife's family has been in the area since the 70s. And so they all knew her. And then they're all like, some people started watching the show. And they'd be like, Wait, this guy's from man away. And so and the time I was in was, you know, I don't know, 10 8000 people, maybe it's a small area. And I was like, one of like, you know, I don't know. 50 Maybe Black people anywhere less than that. And my account, like my immediate township could have been like, 3000 people so small. So everybody would know me everywhere I would go. They'd either know me from the show. Or they'd see me and talk about me for from some form or another. They'd be like, Hey, why aren't you that guy? That's what I hear more than anything. Hey, aren't you that guy? So yeah, I guess they'd be the door.

Sam 18:39

Go ahead. And I say, I guess that's not the worst thing to hear frequently, right?

Britt Ahart 18:44

No, but yes, everybody. I couldn't go anywhere without somebody knowing me from the show. And actually, it was cool. And also was tiring, because I couldn't I could never just blend in somewhere. Not that it was easy being the only black guy anywhere. But like anywhere I go somewhere. I was that guy from that show? Yeah. You didn't like going out that much? Actually.

Sam 19:05

Yeah. Kind of the you got kind of the double dose, I guess.

Britt Ahart 19:09

Yeah. Yeah. And also, my wife was getting kind of tired of it because she was Brett's wife, instead of being Laura. So she was like she was she lost her identity totally, as being an interval individual person and just became my wife. So she wasn't that thrilled about it. And she thought that everybody just wanted us to come over and visit because I was going to do it was kind of, I'll tell you what, yes. So that's another cool thing about being in Georgia. Now I just kind of, I just float around and I'm just an invisible again, which is the reason why I went on a show called alone because I really like to be by myself. So it's totally the opposite of what I was doing that wax by wrapping. I wanted to be in the woods. Yeah, well, yeah, it was. So I did not anticipate being on TV being in front of crowds. Discussing stuff being recognized? No, I just wanted to go camping by myself, and then go back home and tell people how it went. Yes,

Sam 20:07

sir, that that was a definitely backfire. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. You mentioned your wife, and this is, you know, this isn't a pitch or anything, just don't be afraid. But one of the things I've wanted to do, and that I think is so fascinating is that experience of a spouse or a significant other, or, you know, whoever was, I don't want to say left behind, but really whoever was left behind, you know, because that person has, you know, at least a couple of weeks of being alone. And then you had to kind of deal with the aftermath of the show, I'm sure has its own unique challenges and its own experiences. And so, you know, sometime in the future is, as this continues, maybe we'll see some of that, because to me, would be really fascinating to, to hear those stories and to, like you said, not lose sight of the other people and focus so close on just the person who had the TV experience.

Britt Ahart 21:07

Yeah, I've often said that, you could have a total TV series based just off the people who are left home, because my wife was home for by herself for nearly three months. And people don't understand the the toll that it took on everybody who had to stay home, like they had to pick up all of the slack that their counterpart with handling. So my wife still had to work, she had to take care of everything around the house still still had to take care of all three kids, and had to worry about me incessantly was zero communication as to what I was doing on the other side of the planet. So like, when we cut when I come home, you know, I look different, I'm feeling different. I'm a little bit, you know, weary and like shell shocked and totally like, I referred to it as a form of PTSD, not to equate it to anything that happens to anybody in the military, because I'm not, I'm just saying that it's such an extreme shift from being totally by yourself out in the middle of nowhere, for whatever amount of time to then being dropped back into the middle of know, rural Ohio, with people and cars and all this day to day stuff you have to deal with again, it was really kind of stressful to try and re integrate myself back into what is quote unquote, normal. And she's trying to, like help me out the first time all season three was a wreck when I came home. But the second time after she known I was going with going through I'm sorry, then it was a lot easier. And she was able to like help me kind of like, you know, balance myself again, but they are people who stay home after do so much stuff. It's crazy. And that's why a lot of the relationships don't don't don't last. Yeah, like alone as has broken up people.

Sam 23:02

Yeah, that's interesting, sad, like, you know, the more you start to get to know people from the show, like I've had the privilege to so far, you see that there's, there's a wake and there's a toll that this show takes and, and to your to your point. You know, Justin, obviously, he has the experience of being both military veteran and on the show. And he, you know, kind of drew the same parallels of, for him it was the the coming back into society is where that parallel existed from the not he you know, not the traumas of war, because he didn't experience it in that way. But the coming back to society is where the trauma existed of like, wow, this is, this is what life is when you're, you know, doing the nine to five and whatever else.

Britt Ahart 23:50

Yeah, yeah, you feel like, at least for me, when I was out there in Argentina, in Mongolia, that nothing else existed except what I was doing. So it was a very, very much a shock to come back and see how, you know, also you forget that time is going on, like you get you come back, you get bombarded by all the all the news, like all the stuff that's happened in the news, and people were throwing stuff at me, oh, there was this, there was this mass shooting in a gay club in Florida, Florida. And, you know, Hillary made it to the next round, or whatever. It was crazy stuff that I was just, I couldn't digest it all. And so I just had a hard time like even watching TV, or hearing conversations are somebody's trying to catch me up on current events. And so yeah, it was it was pretty stressful. That's another hard thing. So And another reason that some of the people broke up is a lot of people came back with greatly inflated egos of like being some sort of television star, and their counterpart was so through with it, that they just split up. And I can I know that for at least three couples. That the person who was on the was like, came back way too big for their britches. And their counterpart was like, I can't deal with this, or their counterpart was. So I can't think of the word but they were so uneasy with the fact that they're their opposite was being recognized and known that they became too clingy. And stuff like that. And that broke upset too. So there's so many so much like in a fallout from people going on this show. And I don't know if it happens with other shows, I imagine that it probably does. But you know, I was very fortunate to have a good friend whose counterpart stayed home, and they spoke with each other. So they could explain how each of them were feeling. You know, so they understood. And then also, my wife could talk to another person who was on the show, and be like, well, Brett's probably like this, because of this. Because things I was telling her that she wasn't able to hear very well. She was able to hear that from another person, when she took out the emotion of, you know, being in a relationship with that person and could just hear the words. So that helped out a lot.

Sam 26:10

Yeah, it's, you know, I was sorry, I was talking to you the other day, it wasn't on an episode, I don't think but I was talking to someone. And it was just along the lines of I had the thought if there's not a psychologist or a university somewhere that's exploring all the footage, right, that is coming out of this show, and everything that happens, I think there's a greatly missed opportunity. Because you, you learn so much about yourself about human condition and kind of the raw meaning of being a person. You know, I think there's, there's a, there's something to be done with everything that's being collected.

Britt Ahart 26:49

Yeah, it's a shame that, uh, that so much of the stuff is just on a flash drive sitting in a desk somewhere, never to be seen again. I've begged and pleaded with the History Channel, to at least give me my own footage, I'd love to see, you know, all the raw stuff took, or at least allow me to come and look at it. Because, you know, I can't even tell you how many 1000s of hours each person submitted. That was just looked up and discarded. I don't understand. Like, I even offered to buy my footage. But they will give it to me. So I don't It's a shame.

Sam 27:27

Have you have you found yourself needing to needing to seek I don't know if closure is the right word. But But seeking some sort of a reckoning with yourself with with that experience?

Britt Ahart 27:42

How do you mean, closure closure for

Sam 27:45

just with, with everything you went through? And everything you experienced? Is? Was there anything? Has it? I mean, not the performance or anything else? But is it just kind of has a haunted your life? Has it been something that you've had to try and, and put in a place or I mean, do you just want to see the footage just for the sake of I did, I just want

Britt Ahart 28:03

I Yeah, I'd love to be able to have it to share with my kid when he gets older, maybe his kid is I just thought it'd be something neat to have and to remember, it was, aside from my son being born, it was the most transformative instance of my life. And I say that because when you're out there in the elements for so long, then you begin to like, address things that you haven't addressed, you know, you, you visit skeletons you've been holding in a closet, because you can't hide from yourself after a certain amount of time, when you have zero distractions, but what's in your head. So I just began, like, you know, recounting things in my life and, and, you know, coming to terms with a couple of things and, you know, letting some things go that I've been holding on to unnecessarily and just a whole lot of reflecting it was like, you know, first time was 35 days. So in the second time was 56 days. And this just like, constant. Me I don't I don't meditate. But it was like, you know, you're in a meditative state and reflecting, sorry, not reflecting But reflecting on your entire life. So I just began, like, I'll tell you what I did do, I became really, really appreciative for everything. Things I might typically take for granted, like friendships or loved ones, like you really start to appreciate things. When you have nothing, you start to really analyze and break down. So I wouldn't say that there's anything that I need to have closure upon. I would just like to look at it to remember, because it was such an important moment in my life, and not many people have, you know, the most important instances of their life on video. I'd love to have it you know, for a keepsake to be like you know, here's this on these flash drives, or what changed me into what I think is a better Brit. So I just think it'd be great to have.

Sam 29:53

Yeah, can you can you talk a little bit about how how you're different today than you were After those experiences, and maybe just expound on, on what changed and how you're a better Brit today?

Britt Ahart 30:08

Absolutely, yeah. So I'm not talking about material things that I was missing, although I was missing the bathroom and, you know, running water, hot water. But what I miss most what I realized the most important was my family, my, you know, my support system. Because, you know, I can walk out into the woods I'm looking at right now, you know, go and try and build a structure or catch a fish and I might fail, I come home and I, my family to hug me and they pat me on the back, I don't worry about the bridge, you'll get it next time, or maybe try a different way or, you know, fish, this area of the pond, and maybe you'll catch something. But out there, you know, all my failures were compounded by the fact that I had no support system, nobody to, you know, help me, or to guide me or to give me some love or to reassure me that it's going to be okay, you'll get it next time. And so I really began to, not like I didn't before, but really, really understand how much I need my family. And I didn't, I don't think I ever took them for granted before. But in their total instant and complete absence, it was just much more of a, like a clearer understanding how valuable having them in my life is. So when I came back home, I was much more able to express how I felt towards them, and how much I appreciate them, and how much I love them. Where I always felt that but I may not have said it. I don't know if it was machismo or whatever. But it definitely made me realize that I need to take the opportunities to tell my family how I feel about them. When they're right here, let them know how I feel about them. Instead of just being like, you know, the strong silent type. That's one of the things I definitely took it from being alone and away from them, and freezing and starving and sad and failing. And realizing I don't need anything except for my family to be right here with me. So the appreciation that I drew from the show is one of the things that I am, like, so grateful for so grateful for that.

Sam 32:11

And maybe this kind of feeds into the desire to, you know, to be able to see some of that footage, but do you. I mean, we're human, right. You're, you're you're awesome Brit, but you're a person, right? And do you ever find yourself? Maybe reverting back to the mean? Or? Or, you know, do you ever feel those feelings of maybe forgetting what you learned? And? And what does that feel like for you?

Britt Ahart 32:39

Um, no, I don't know, if I've got I don't think I've gone backwards at all, I've definitely maintained the level of appreciation, it's hard to remember when you have zero in terms of the material things. But I definitely appreciate my family and I continue to let them know that. And that's why, like, I like to spend all of my time with them, I really don't like to go out anywhere. I really don't like to be around other people all that much. I really just like to hang out with my family at home. So I don't I don't see myself going backward, you'd have to ask my wife that. But in terms of how I feel, I definitely think I'm the same person that walked out of the woods in terms of my relationships with my family, I definitely keep them close.

Sam 33:21

Well, maybe someday, if phase two of this project kicks off, and if people would be willing, well, we'll hear what your wife thinks.

Britt Ahart 33:29

I would love to hear what she thinks if she wasn't talking to me. Like she could she would tell me but if she was having a conversation with somebody else, I would love to listen in to hear what she was saying,

Sam 33:39

Well, maybe maybe we'll explore that. Because, you know, for me, this whole thing started at the end of last season season eight one of the contestants clay, his his wife, he had a YouTube channel prior right is where we're kind of seeing Alone evolve, and he had this channel prior. And so his his wife and kids, they created their own kind of video journey of what their time was like. And, you know, when I when we watched that it's like man that you know, don't don't take this personally History Channel. Like man, that was almost better than the show, you know, seeing the that human kind of just the reality right. And, and that sounds like you know, I want to I think we're missing the the people side of this show. And we're missing the people behind what we see on TV. So that's really where this started was was out of that desire. Because it's I think it's powerful and it's and it's important

Britt Ahart 34:44

Yeah, I agree. It's this is something that I don't know maybe the the show might have their own ideas of what they want to portray. Oh, hold on. Can you still hear me?

Sam 34:53

Yeah, you're you're great.

Britt Ahart 34:59

So One second, I made my truck because I get the best reception outside. And my truck just shut off because I've been sitting in the same spot forever. Just had to turn it back on No. Car, what was I saying? Oh, so I don't know if the show has, like their own. Like they're trying maybe to drive the narrative or maybe make people characters by what they portray to each person. So I think it's good to have a podcast like this, because you can actually really get to know the person. Because there's some people who you watch on the show. And you see them, like, you know, for two minutes, this episode, five minutes this episode, and that might not be at all who they really are. So it's good to be able to have a have a podcast like this, and actually, we'll explore and talk more in depth and get to know the actual people, because everybody's in a different frame of mind when they're doing the show anyway, like, right, right before I was leaving, I was a totally different person, because I was just so focused on what I was getting ready to do, that I was not anything like I was, before I knew I was leaving, or after I came back. So when you talk when you see the people on the show, I mean, we're in a hive, we might be highly agitated, or like really stressed, or really thinking or really motivated, or really hungry, or really scared. And you're not getting the actual person a lot of those times that you would get in a normal conversation like this when they're in their normal habitat.

Sam 36:29

Yeah, that's a that's a good point. And, and, you know, this, obviously, isn't to take away from from the show, cuz I think, you know, I don't watch a ton of TV, there's about four shows that I make an effort to pay attention to. And, and this is one of them. So obviously alone is is an incredible, incredible thing. But yeah, you know, you make a good point. And, and I'll be honest, I've never thought of it in in that in this regard. That really, we're kind of catching people on the extremes, right? The show sees you your, your extreme of amped and your extreme focus and your extreme of, you know, go get 'em attitude, and then we also get to see what the extreme of this freakin sucks, right? And, and this miserable, and this is the worst thing in the entire world, you don't get to see, you know, the, the, I guess the reality or the the baseline. That's, I've never thought of it that way. So thank you for, for making that. What should be an obvious point, way more obvious.

Britt Ahart 37:32

My my quick question about Larry, when you spoke with him? Was he anything like you thought he was gonna be?

Sam 37:39

That's a good question. And that's, that's kind of a loaded question. I think that for me, I'm, I love people, right, I decided to start a show where I talk to people. And Larry was one of the people that I was most excited to talk to, because I knew that, that Larry had an awesome story. And so for me, he is exactly who I was expecting. But to your point. There's a lot of people that are out there that that are would expect something completely different. And I think that's really unfortunate.

Britt Ahart 38:18

You want to know something funny about Larry.

Sam 38:21

I don't know, should we should we call and make sure that this can stay in? It can't so I can't say. All right, well, maybe you definitely have to cut it out. Yeah, maybe maybe offline. Another thing I think would be super fun, is another you know, you're kind of getting all the your this conversations getting all of the things out of my brain. Another thing I think would be super fun is to get you know, a handful of the people that have forged lifelong friendships and relationships based on the show, and just sit down and just listen, because I'm sure that you know, there's things that that you guys have experienced in and that you understand that not many people on the face of this planet understand that would be interesting to hear you talk about but but I want to touch on something here. So you you obviously when you came home, you you're now driving a bus and you did that to spend more time with your son had a great conversation, hearing your your philosophy on family and on on the people around you. I'm just just curious about that. Because when you were on the show, you were you know, labeled as an accountant or, you know, just to me someone working in business and kind of living that normal lifestyle. And so is did the show kind of impact your career change if I can go there?

Britt Ahart 39:45

Absolutely 100% of it. So, to me the first time when I did season three, I was working in accounting for fed for FedEx, the cubicle life, and everybody knew what I was that I was trying out for the show because I do In signing a nondisclosure agreements at that time, I was just like, Yeah, I'm trying out for this show such and such and such and such. And, you know, the wheels are turning, it looks like there's they're gauging their interest and I'm getting getting a little traction. So then when I disappeared, everybody knew where I went, I couldn't hide it anymore. So I was gone, came back, totally different, like 35 pounds lighter. I look like a different guy. I had all these experiences, I was a little bit nervous about returning to work. Like when I first got back, I didn't call them and tell them I was back because I was just too worried about going back to work for this reason or that reason. And so when I sitting in that cube, I found myself I was like, I felt trapped. Like, I can't sit in here, this just doesn't feel good. Like I'm having problems, I would go and hide in the bathroom. Because I just, I felt closed in and contained in that small little box after having like a moment in Argentina feeling so incredibly free. You know what I mean? Like, just free. So I did that job. I kept working out. And I kept grinding and finally began to like, level out and almost feel normal again, although I was really just not enjoying it and just going through the motions day by day. And so time went on, and they called me again asked me to do season five. And I'm like, I told my wife, I'm like, I can't pass down this opportunity. I mean, and she's like, well, actually, she said, you know, but I have a feeling they're gonna call you again. And I'm like, Oh my God, it was the perfect time because we were taking our late late honeymoon, it was delayed for this reason or that reason. And we're down in Puerto Rico. And she sent it to me when we're out for dinner. And I'm like, they called me, they want me to come do it again. She's like, Well, you got to go. I was like, Oh my God, thank you. So after I went, the second time, I was certain when I came back, that I just couldn't sit in the cube anymore. I was like, This is life telling me I need to go in a different direction. I need to break off from what society deems is like normal work behavior. The Cube life is not for me, I need to do something else. So I took my time and stayed home for a little while. And that's when it turned into the bus ride bus driving. While I was doing work with my agents, I was able to, you know, fulfill all the aspects of what I felt I needed and wanted to be doing. I got to have a lot of fun with the kids while still working. And then I also got to be got to do the outdoor stuff and work with my agent and start develop projects to go the other direction I wanted to go. So it was a lot more fulfilling. And I just for the foreseeable future. I can't see myself closed up in a cubicle.

Sam 42:30

And get on Yeah, it's I don't know. Are you a movie person? Do you watch me? Yes, I like movies. Do you know the Secret Life of Walter Mitty?

Britt Ahart 42:43

That's an older black and white, isn't

Sam 42:45

it? No, it's It's like it's probably 10 years old. And I'm terrible with oh, I don't know the names of the people that are in it. I couldn't tell you about it. But I know one thing I can't watch the show. Because every time I watch that movie, I like that movie ends with me, you know, threatening to quit my job and just go you know, live a life of adventure. So maybe put that on your list The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. And if you're ever feeling the need to go back to maybe the corporate world, just you know, go watch that show and that'll set you straight again. Okay, I will.

Alright, so I guess, you know, looking at this your, your for your life? Where did you? Where did you get this? This drive, I guess to be in nature and you know, looking at your, your social feeds and stuff you're always posting? Maybe not wonder but just love of the outdoors? And you've obviously been on a show that that highlights that. Where did that come from? And was that something that was innate in you? Did somebody cultivate that? in you? How did that happen?

Britt Ahart 43:54

Well, so I'm adopted. So I I've never had any like blood relation with anybody in my family. And so I've also always felt very different from everybody in my family. I don't know how much being adopted relate to that. But I'm not like anybody else in my family. And I always felt that way. And it was the same way in my childhood, where I wasn't part of any big cliques or groups. There wasn't really anywhere that I kind of like, like fit in as like one of the guys I could always be somebody on the perimeter like, we're all going here and oh, I think I think Brett's coming. So I was just kind of like, you know, just kind of floating around. And I never really felt that comfortable. But I was always felt really good and relaxed and myself when I was just walking through the woods. So I spent a lot of time as a kid just walking through the woods, you know, playing in the creek, discovering new paths and trails and just kind of wandering. And then as I got older I joined the Boy Scouts but I didn't really want to earn any merit badges and stuff. I didn't like the guidelines they were making for me I just wanted to camp and fish and make fires. And you know, practice my little bow and arrow at the time. And so as I got older, I met a couple of guys who like to go camping. And so you know, we do some camping here and there. But nothing really hardcore would be, you know, for maybe like a handful of days, not really backwoods, but just enjoy the outdoors, I found people who were kind of like minded. So we flash forward, and I found myself in Ohio. And I actually now had my own property where I could like, practice and play. And so you know, I'm building little traps here and there, I'm still doing lots of fishing, and hiking and really enjoying, you know, as much as I could that nature had to offer. And so I had a friend of mine, who was a writer for National Geographic at the time. And I was talking to him about this show. And I was like, Hey, look at this show. It's kind of cool. But you know, I'm pretty sure I could do this and such such he's like, hey, we'll read it. He kind of did a you know, put your money where your mouth is kind of deal. So it was almost like a dare like a bridgehead, whatever. If you think you can do you just sign up for it, they probably think you're interesting. So I filled out the paperwork, the incredibly long application. And I sent in some photos of me with my chickens and with my dog and shooting guns and chopping firewood and all this random outdoor stuff I thought they might be interested in seeing me do. And I sent it in. And six months later at a missed phone call they're calling me wanted to schedule an interview. And for me to just started, steamrolling. And then it was, like five months later, I found myself in Argentina. So that's, it went from me just being a kid who like to hike, because I like by myself because I like being by myself and go fishing by myself and all this stuff. To me camping on a show by myself.

Sam 46:44

What's interesting, and where did the you know, because I love to camp and I love to hike and hunt and fish and do all of that. But where did the Where did the fork go down that you're practicing trapping and maybe more primitive skills on your property? I mean, what where was that? You know, the escalation that

Britt Ahart 47:06

started. That started when I started watching shows like dual survivor dual, dual survival, I have such a hard time saying that. And obviously Bear Grylls. And when I started watching those shows on TV, and they started talking about catching animals, and making primitive tribes stuff like that. And then also around this time, I was really getting into watching YouTube videos. And watching people just like, you know, fabricate all these really cool things, just out of a couple of trees, and some, you know, some natural cordage they made. So I didn't have any place that I could do that. Until we moved out to Ohio, and then held that land. So that's watching other people doing it and me trying to do it. And so the first the very first snare I made, I caught this pesky skunk that kept spraying our house. And so that kind of like, oh, man, I can do it. So I'm going I started like trying to make a little traps and things like that. And that's one of the that's when they blossom.

Sam 48:03

Did that Scott right the last laugh

Britt Ahart 48:07

I got the last laugh. Okay. It actually it actually didn't it didn't it didn't spray when it died. Like they might think so they might think that they do. It didn't. So I just I got that thing and dispose of it because we had a pretty breezy house. And so every time it would go by it would make our whole house smell inside. So I was a very pleased with myself to say the least to relieve us of that thing.

Sam 48:34

Sorry, I derail it. That's when

Britt Ahart 48:36

it that's when it started. Yeah, that's when it started. That's when it started like speeding up when I was like, huh, let me see if I can make this one trap. Because this looks like a simple one. It's a simple trigger snare with it with a you know, sapling pull down. And so I did that one. And when it works, I'm like, Oh, let me see if I can make this trap. Let me see if I can make this traps. So I've made lots and lots of traps. And fortunately where we were, I could only build them and test them. And then I had to disassemble them because I'd never wanted to catch our cats or catch our dog. So I build lots of traps. And I always had to take them down.

Sam 49:12

Well, the skunk was so the skunk was the unlucky one, right?

Britt Ahart 49:17

Yeah, yeah. But he was it was he was my like my biggest motivator. I knew that I could make something out of just a little bit of paracord and some sticks that could catch a live animal. I thought it was fascinating. So I'm like well, let me see if I can make this Can I just kept practicing. So I've got I've got a few of them underneath my belt that I could just, you know, whip out real quick and then they're fun.

Sam 49:38

So is that skunk gonna get a place on the credits of your next your next ventures?

Britt Ahart 49:46

Well, it was also the first animal that I ever tried that I ever tried to skin. So it hung up in my barn for a little while until I got a little bit rank because I forgot about some of the other processes to preserve a hide. But I definitely have to give a shout out To the skunk. It was a It pushed me and pushed me on my way.

Sam 50:04

That's funny. And since you went there, a simple answer will do. You you in Bear Grylls get dropped off on some place on earth who's who's gonna stay out the longest?

Britt Ahart 50:20

me because I won't have my cameraman there to help me and feed me and sleep in a tent at night with him. I want to see Bear Grylls, listen, I'm never gonna challenge Bear Grylls I mean, he's, he's awesome. But uh, I don't know, I don't know how long he would last given 10 items and put in the same place we were instead you can't leave you got to stay right there. Where he's always trying to get off the x we have to stay on the X.

Sam 50:43

Yeah, it's funny when you when you poke around online a little bit that kind of, you know, it's kind of like the who would win in a fight bear Elian right? That's kind of the Baron Lion of the show, right is what would happen if Bear Grylls got on the show. And there's, I think there's very cyclic camps.

Britt Ahart 51:03

If you think about it, that's what makes this show so different is because we're all we all have to like homestead, we have to stay there. If we ever dropped somewhere, we will now 10 items whose mistake, you're going to try and figure out the best way to get back to society, which is what every other show is about. All the other shows are like I'm trapped here, I got to find somebody on this dirt road to pick me up. Whereas we're trapped here. You have to stay here. How long can you stay on this spot? So that's what makes Alone so much different from everything else?

Sam 51:34

Yeah, it's kind of the, the opposite of what a lot of Yeah, it's kind of goes the opposite route of what everything kind of you prepared to do. Right? You want to survive to get back to where you're going. And on this, you're just yeah, you're starving until someone tells you can go home?

Britt Ahart 51:53

Yeah, exactly. I mean, in a real situation, if the Winter's coming, you're gonna follow the food. You're not gonna sit in one place and starve to death? Yeah, that's within the parameters of the show.

Sam 52:04

It's a question that I asked Larry and I are interested to hear your responses. How has the how has survival changed for you based on on your experience on the show, right, because you you're again, you're one of a handful of people who has had the opportunity to prepare and learn and do all these things. But then you've also had to rely on that to keep you alive in a very real sense. Has that kind of changed your your thoughts and your approach to quote unquote, survival, or whatever you want to call it?

Britt Ahart 52:38

It's definitely made me a lot more prepared. Mentally. I'm more ready for situations, I'm more aware, when I'm camping. More, instead of just hiking into the woods and throwing down a tent, I have a lot more. A lot more boxes to check. As I'm traversing through the woods, I'm a lot different when it comes to like gathering, as I move through the woods, I'm a lot careful to pay more attention about things, I would definitely say it's, it's heightened my awareness, when I'm going to be doing anything outside, I think a lot more. I've seen a bunch. So I see more now. I see more usage in the things that I'm passing or grabbing. Whereas before I was on the show, if I never had to figure out, you know how I'm going to construct this trap or build this or carry this. But after that experience, I see everything through kind of a different perspective. If that makes any sense. No, it

Sam 53:40

does. I think there's, you know, you hear stories of starvation and certain there's people that have been on the show, who I think have shown us this. Dave, if you're out there, I really want to talk to you, I think you're awesome. You know, you see with with starvation and with people that don't have this, this need to hold on to and to keep what you do have and to, you know, get something because having something is better than having nothing. Did you find yourself kind of going through that when you got home and having to be like, okay, it's okay, right? Like I, I have a whatever store down the street and I've got a fridge at home, like I can kind of chill out a little bit.

Britt Ahart 54:26

Well, I'm still always worried that things are going to run out. So I still like I like to store I like to, you know, prepare and not throw anything away. I have a problem with Well, I've gotten a little bit better with it. But I don't like to waste any food. I don't like to waste any objects like I try and find a use for everything. Because I know what it's like to have nothing and trying to figure out how am I going to make this possible? So I was that way before but even more so now. I cherish All the stuff that we have, because I know how important it can be, if I'm caught in a situation, and I don't have that thing

Sam 55:08

is that? Yeah, no, I mean, you know that that's perfect, right? Because that kind of conjures up again, you know, I think, for me, it conjures up family, your grandparents that maybe went through the Depression, right? Or who were on the tail end of the depression and, and how important, every little thing was right? And you know, part of me kind of dies when when something stops working. And it's like, alright, just get rid of it. Get a new one. And yes, that's interesting that you've even this experiences kind of pushed you through that in a way

Britt Ahart 55:51

you just got me remember some stuff. But yeah, I don't know. I think my perspective on on having now. And that happened to worry. I still do worry. A lot, a lot more than I let my wife know. But I try not to not to stress other people out with, you know, what's going on in my head all the time. Yeah, but I have definitely instilled upon them that, you know, to appreciate and waste less. And I've definitely seen that. It's very evident in my family, especially my son, like, he doesn't want to waste anything. So it's good to know. He's like, he's not like a miser. And he's not really anal retentive about keeping everything but he knows the importance and doesn't want to see stuff get thrown away. Like he gets upset when he sees his sister scrape, like an extra food, extra mouthful of food from our plate into the trash. So he understands the importance of like, you know, waste not want not. Yeah,

Sam 56:47

there's was it there's, there's 10 starving people in the middle of the Arctic that could use that scrap of food, right is that? Yeah, that same gets turned into in the in the a heart household.

Britt Ahart 57:00

I'll be the first person to pull up. You know, somebody could eat that. You want to see a picture of somebody who wishes they could eat that. I'm so quick to pull open a picture on my phone. So he knows he's like, No, I don't want to see a picture. Okay, I understand. Also, nobody in my house says, I'm freezing. And nobody in my house says I'm starving. Because I'll be like, you've never been starving.

Sam 57:21

That brings on a dad lecture.

Britt Ahart 57:24

Oh, I love it. I love to like it's freezing in here and be like it's freezing. What it feels like to be freezing. That's so now I love it. It's so funny. Like, we understand we understand we're not freezing. Sometimes my wife will be I'm starving. I mean, I'm not starving. I'm just kind of hungry right now. I love it.

Sam 57:44

To say that I'm hungry.

Britt Ahart 57:47

Oh my god. Or if they say there's nothing here to eat. That gets me I'm like there's nothing here to eat. I know what it's like to have nothing to eat. Turn on season five, Episode Six. There's nothing to eat in that episode. Yeah, I'll tell him in a second is funny makes me laugh every time. So just like, we understand

Sam 58:12

that that's funny. Um, if this is too personal, that's fine. You you kind of went quiet there a minute ago. And he said he got you thinking about something? Is there anything you can share with that? Or is that? Is that a Brett's mind only experience you just had?

Britt Ahart 58:27

No, it wasn't overly personal. Just when, when you were talking about do I think about being without sometimes I think just how I was out there, I'll see a picture of me that'll pop up and in my, you know, social media history. And it'll be a picture of me like, really skinny and dirty and, and I just kind of have like, momentary flashbacks. Because sometimes I see that and I don't even know who that guy is, like, I can't believe that I was actually there doing that. So I'll just I'll just fall back into a moment of just remembering what it was like to be out there because I can't feel the pain anymore. But I used to have really really vivid memories of what it was like. And that's definitely how I was able to do it a second time you forget the pain, you only remember the good positive that you came out of there with least for me. So well, just thinking back about about how it was there are

Sam 59:16

when those go on a lot when those moments happen. And you you know you see those things that that kind of push it back in your memory or push it back to your mind or you know some random person reaches out to you and says Hey, Britain want to talk for an hour? Is are those are those good things that come back? Is it is it kind of mixed and bittersweet? What does the what feelings does that conjure in you?

Britt Ahart 59:42

I have nothing but good memories of the whole thing. Like all of it was positive, uplifting. Like I learned from it all there. The only thing I could say that ever upset me was in season three, when I lost the rabbit that I caught. That's the only time I was really down because I was really counting on that food. Other than that I was in high spirits the whole time, although I'll be tired. And the only time I was really often season five, was probably just a few days before I tapped out. When I realized I like, I'm so exhausted, I can't do anything. And I had a little breakdown, I'm sure I didn't film it. But other than that all of it was really positive stuff. Like all of it was great. I don't I don't know how many people could say that they had bad experiences out there. It was all like, invigorating, it was like being able to put your entire life on pause for a second. So you can like rewind, and revisit and think about all the things that have transpired in your lifetime. And really be able to see them because it's like an everyday normal life, we have to go forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, there's something to do tomorrow, I got to plan for this. But out there, you have nothing to think about. But the basics, food, water, shelter, you know, think about your family. And that's every single day. So it just became where I became so much more in tune with my thoughts. And so, so relaxed and calm. And I was in remembering a lot of things. And then so I only drew positivity from all that stuff. Like nothing was like, This is the worst. What am I doing out here? I never had those moments, I had a lot of moments like, This is so crazy. I can't believe I'm out here. But I drew nothing but positivity from the entire time I was on the show. It was some of the greatest times I've ever had by myself out there in the woods. So nothing was a bad time.

Sam 1:01:49

It's interesting, I think, you know, you make it probably three for three that have that have said that you know that that coming home experience for as difficult obviously, as the experience out there was that coming home experience was was almost worse and getting back into the swing and you you mentioned your your cubicle and feeling trapped and needing to go hide in the bathroom. It's it's just an interesting, an interesting thing. So I appreciate you being willing to share that and, and opening up with that. I guess is we're kind of hitting that hour mark here. Britt, do you have anything else that you want to talk about? That you think we've missed? Or any anything that's important that you want to share with? With anyone who's listening?

Britt Ahart 1:02:44

Probably gonna have to cut out the dead air. Why think there's anything that we haven't addressed?

Sam 1:02:48

No, you're?

Britt Ahart 1:02:51

Well, I would go back to what I said before, about people's personalities on the show versus the people who they really are. Because a lot of people unfortunately, were judged negatively on social media, because they couldn't get a friction fire to start, or they couldn't catch a fish, or they cost too much, or their shelter wasn't that great. But I think everybody should listen to your podcast, because you know, the people they enjoyed watching out there will actually get to know them and see them as real people, which a lot of people don't view people on TV as, quote unquote, real people. I think if anybody wants to challenge everybody, as much as they do all the, the armchair quarterbacks that I've been reading about for years, then just go ahead and try and do it yourself. Stop talking trash about us. Go ahead and do it yourself. But yeah, for the most part, I just, I think that more than being a show about camping, it's awesome that that this show was on but it's much more of like a psychological experiment. And I wish that the show was longer. Or there are lists more episodes that people could purchase. So you could actually see, you know, what really, really transpires with a person the whole time that they're out there, you can't you can't even begin to digest what we'd go through. If you're just watching, you know, 30 minutes of our 50 day voyage out there. Yeah, so it's just it's a really interesting experiment. And I don't know that they can even begin to show it on TV as like incredible as it is, in real life.

Sam 1:04:33

Like I said, if there's not some university or some psychologist somewhere that's you know, spending a career digging through footage, I mean, it really is something very unique and and you know, I appreciate I appreciate you talking about the show cuz for me alone has gotten so much better just you know, I've done three three episodes with with participants from the show and we've got a handful more coming up really soon and And that concept of getting to know, the actual person has really enriched the whole experience for me. And so I'm grateful, thankful for you for taking the time to, to sit down and visit and share, you know, these personal parts of yourself and share your experiences. And hopefully, you know, we can all learn from that, I think, you know, a thought that I had when you were talking about your son, and I'm reflecting on my daughter, and how she, you know, she's very young and, and she is already very concerned about how she's taking care of the world and how she is, is, you know, leaving her impact. And, you know, kids are very impressionable. And if you start at the right age at the right time, you can have a big impact on, on how they view the world.

Britt Ahart 1:05:54

Yeah, absolutely. And that's why that's why I'm so happy to be starting to work with the kids in California, because that's just, you know, one of the stepping stones I'll be able to take to start reaching more kids and getting them more exposed and more appreciative, and just experience and just have like a different different aspect of how life could be, it might spawn some sort of interest in them, and take them in to a different in a different direction, other than the one that they might be being pushed towards.

Sam 1:06:20

Right, this is, this is fantastic. And I again, I'm so grateful for your time, I'm grateful for your knowledge and really your wisdom, right, you've, you've taken your knowledge, and you've been able to apply it to your life. So thank you again, for your time for sitting down, and for just who you are and what you bring. So thank you so much. And I will get some information from you. And if you have anything to lean in, in the future, if any of these projects start to go, we'll make sure to be in touch, and people can find those links here on this show. So

Britt Ahart 1:06:54

thanks a lot, Sam. I really enjoyed it. I have one more thing I forgot to mention. You mentioned if there's ever a professor or something, poring through all the footage, you know, can I talk about it being experiments, I forgot to mention that there is a professor who's developing a course, on the show alone. To teacher, it's a Kinesiology students on the readiness of competition. They spend a lot of time teaching anatomy, motor function, and sports nutrition and things like that. But they ignore the physical and the mental, and the technical skills that the athletes have to have to be like, you know, champions, or whatever. And she wants me to be one of the people that helped her develop the curriculum, by talking to me about my experience on the show, which I've already done with her. It was like we spoke for several hours. And she's going to develop like a curriculum. And and of course, based off some of the information I told her, and that's going to be shown to her college students. And then at some point down the line, I'll probably do a live zoom with her class.

Sam 1:07:56

That's cool. I'm, I'm, I'm very glad that someone's getting into that. Because I mean, I've had that thought a few times over the last couple months, like, man, there's just there's something here to benefit the learning of the world. So I'm glad to hear that that's happening. And it's cool that you get to be involved. Yeah,

Britt Ahart 1:08:16

I was really excited. I'm so excited. I might be part of a school curriculum someday, Lisa, my name mentioned in the textbook.

Sam 1:08:25

Well, Britt, thank you again. Yeah, I said it like 20 times now. But thank you so much for your time. And thank you for sitting down and opening up. And just appreciate it. And I'm sure we'll be in touch in the future.

Britt Ahart 1:08:39

All right, I appreciate him. Thank you. Alright,

Sam 1:08:41

thank you. And you have you have a great day. You too. Bye. I just want to take a minute. And again, thank Britt for taking time out of his day, taking time away from his family and his loved ones to sit down and visit and share some of his experiences and share some of his life. We were obviously able to hear and understand how important Brett's family is to him. So being willing to take an hour and a half to sit down with me and with us today is really special and really important to me. So again, Britt, thank you so much for coming on the show. Also wanted to take a second and thank all of you who are listening to the show for taking time out of your schedules to hear these stories and to hear these individuals talk and share their lives with us in a way that really we haven't heard before. And so thank you for that right this is something that I've never done before this started out as kind of a crazy idea one night and it's slowly turning into something and it's something that is very special and important to me to ensure that these stories are shared. So thank you for taking your time and and giving me part of your mind and part of your life for an hour. Just so you know there's a Facebook page for the Alon podcast. It's at the end Podcast. You can interact with the show there. There's also a website called The alone podcast. You can interact with the show there. So thank you again and hope you all have a wonderful day.